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Post by bigmjfan on Apr 22, 2012 16:17:18 GMT -5
Mediabase is updated now. There was a slight adjustment. Casey is -21 spins instead of -23. Mediabase has been wack all day so who knows what is going on.
I dont think they will say this is tthe next single and it goes for radio the next week. I think there will be a few week gap until it goes for ads officially. They need to work on Kellie a few weeks.
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Post by bigmjfan on Apr 22, 2012 16:20:52 GMT -5
And there will be no recurrents next week
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Post by boudica on Apr 22, 2012 19:20:01 GMT -5
Ha ha very funny, but who right. The races this year has actually been very good because the cars are very close to each other, 5 different teams could easily win. Oh and F1 has added a new system, DRS (a smart word for push to pass button lol), which makes it much easier to pass. But it is still a trick to pass, F1 has never been about easy passing. Passing someone is a challenge, as well as the precision required to do perfect lines and lap times after each other, as well as strategy. But yes overtaking has increased by something like 70%, this is really a good season. You should give it a spin sometime. Believe it or not, those things are important in Nascar, too. Less obviously so in the Truck and Nationwide series because they have less talent. I do plan to watch some F1 races this year, especially with Texas coming. (I looked into going to the Texas race, but it was just too ridiculously expensive. It would actually be cheaper to fly to Kuala Lumpur and watch the race there). I used to watch F1 occasionally, but they made such idiots of themselves the last few times they ran at Indy that it got difficult to take them seriously. However, I really, really like Kimi, so with him in the hunt I'll definitely be tuning in some this season. Plus, passing! Gotta love it! I'm thinking Monaco should be next, right? Very big race weekend if they run it on Memorial Day weekend along with the Indy 500 and Coke 600. We always watch all of them. Good times! Oh dont get me wrong of course lap times is important in every single type of racing and overtaking as well. I know many F1 fans are very snobbish when it comes to Nascar. But I seriously have no issue with Nascar, I can appreciate different types of motorsport. What I am trying to say is that each requires a different set skills, and there are different things that are more important, although the basics remain the same. Althoug at this stage there is properly not that many differences, I think both series have borrowed from each other. But because of the cars is it encourages different types of racing. Nascar definitively has more real racing. lol If you touch another driver with a F1 car you race will be practically over and you will ruin your aerodynamics. This is partly what I meant with precision, F1 cars are very fragile. They have a very narrow operating window. And sometimes just running a few centimeters off the racing line can make a world of difference, or just a small amount of wheel spin or a small lock up can ruin your whole lap, and if one corner is wrong then you are often not on the right line for the next corner. For example the top 6 in quali this weekend were separated by 4 tenths of a second. It is my perception (rightly or wrongly) that in Nascar your biggest issue is the competitors around you, there are much more cars running, and the cars are spec so they are designed for close racing. You can really race 3 abreast bumping into each other. Of course you need to set good lap times and do it as fast as possible. But it is a marathon sometimes, you need to be fast and some times you can hang back. But the people racing on track against you are your biggest issue. While F1 is more of a sprint you need to be as fast as possible and consistently so. You are racing more against the clock in F1 then doing so against your immediate competitors on track side by side. Perhaps I ve said it incorrectly before. I hope you understand what I am getting at, it is just different types of goals during the races, in my opinion. In fact I think that is why many F1 drivers really like Nascar, they often miss that wheel to wheel racing you get in the lower formula's like Formula Renault, F3, F2 and GP2 but you dont really get that in F1. The cars are just to fragile, and to expensive. But in any case enough of that. I have been meaning to ask you about the Texas race, although I have read that story about how expensive it would be for the locals. The whole Indy thing or Tyre gate as it was called was a massive disaster for F1 in the US. The Bahrain GP this weekend was almost as bad, another PR disaster. lol Although you guys where not completely wrong the politics & scandals in F1 is sometimes be a bit of a joke or like a soap opera. (The British do love their drama). But I will not lie, I also enjoy the drama often. lol And really it all goes back to Bernie Ecclestone, he really only cares about his millions or billions. As long as he gets money for a race he doesn't give a damn. Every single year he threatens to cancel the British GP and the Australian GP. Places where people actually go to the races, but the governments of those countries doesn't want to pay. So he would rather go to places like China, Bahrain, Singapore ext. where those governments have no issue with paying his exorbitant asking prices. That is why the track owners have to ask so much in return, and why the Texas GP will be so expensive. It is a shame, I think Texas could be a great place for a race. I am excited about it, I think there should always be a US GP. You sound like me I used to watch Indy car a bit, but for some reason I just stopped. Why, I dont really know. But I might just watch the Indy 500 again. Nascar races aren't always shown consistently here, or at least that was last time I checked, that was a while back, they are advertising Nascar more these days so perhaps they have gotten better. But in any case I am not pulling your leg there is actually loads of passing and racing! Imagine that! Although there will still not be be much passing at Monaco.lol The next race is the Spanish GP in three weeks, they have a bit of a break. I dont know if you know Autosport or not. It is mostly a F1 forum but they do cover every type of racing. If you havent seen it then you could perhaps check it out. The Kansas Race: forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=166385
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Post by waternymf on Apr 22, 2012 19:24:30 GMT -5
Great news, Boudica! Seems like a break, in the midst of the push for exposure of Casey and his music would be a misstep, to me. Comparison to Gokey? Not in a million
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Post by boudica on Apr 22, 2012 19:27:52 GMT -5
And there will be no recurrents next week Yep, that should be difficult.
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Post by boudica on Apr 22, 2012 19:34:00 GMT -5
Great news, Boudica! Seems like a break, in the midst of the push for exposure of Casey and his music would be a misstep, to me. Comparison to Gokey? Not in a million I dont think BJfan is suggesting a break. They can send the single out immediately and make the impact date 3 weeks after. And that is properly what they will do in truth, it seems to be the general plan from most labels. Although I think it would be better to have the single out quickly.
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Post by boudica on Apr 22, 2012 19:56:03 GMT -5
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Post by kachinadoll on Apr 22, 2012 21:37:13 GMT -5
Oh dont get me wrong of course lap times is important in every single type of racing and overtaking as well. I know many F1 fans are very snobbish when it comes to Nascar. But I seriously have no issue with Nascar, I can appreciate different types of motorsport. What I am trying to say is that each requires a different set skills, and there are different things that are more important, although the basics remain the same. Althoug at this stage there is properly not that many differences, I think both series have borrowed from each other. But because of the cars is it encourages different types of racing. Nascar definitively has more real racing. lol If you touch another driver with a F1 car you race will be practically over and you will ruin your aerodynamics. This is partly what I meant with precision, F1 cars are very fragile. They have a very narrow operating window. And sometimes just running a few centimeters off the racing line can make a world of difference, or just a small amount of wheel spin or a small lock up can ruin your whole lap, and if one corner is wrong then you are often not on the right line for the next corner. For example the top 6 in quali this weekend were separated by 4 tenths of a second. It's apples to oranges of course because of the differences in qualifying procedures and track configuration, but you might be surprised to know the the difference in 1-10 qualifying speeds at Kansas was only 0.15 seconds. Allowing for differences in track length, that would work out to 0.356 seconds. Of course, lots more corners in Bahrain make for a much trickier run, so 4 tenths really is very impressive. I think those close qualifying times for both series come from having the most talented people all competing to do the exact same thing. It's kind of amazing when you think about it. It depends on the track. You can race 3 and 4 wide down the straights at Daytona and Talledega, but if you touch the side of another car, you're gonna cause a big, big wreck. However, at Martinsville the saying is "eight wheels corner better than four" meaning it's actually an advantage to lean on someone in the corners. Turning consistent lap times matters the most at places like Kansas, Atlanta and Michigan which are fast tracks that tend to have long green flag runs. That goes hand-in-hand with the ability to conserve fuel which is also important at those sorts of tracks. But yes, knowing the other drivers tempraments and how they are likely to react in a given situation is very important in Nascar. More races are probably won by getting inside the other guy's head than by having the most consistent lap times. It's just that you won't be up there contending for the win if you can't put down the laps. To me, the biggest difference in Nascar and F1 is the amount of performance drop-off during a race. F1 cars are more fragile, but stock cars are heavier and harder on their parts and tires and their performance level changes a lot over a fuel run and even more over the course of a race. A driver can have the best car for the first half of the race and be absolute junk for the second half and all that changed was the track temperature, but that affects everything. Stock cars aren't fragile, but they're pretty fussy, and so are some of their drivers. I think the fragility of F1 cars adds to the drama, especially during overtaking. It's much more interesting when you know how risky it is. And they're faster of course. Can't lie, speed's pretty appealing in a race. Don't worry. I'm just teasing you. Nascar fans are well aware of how most of the F1 world sees us, and we enjoy poking fun when we can. I wouldn't do it if I didn't know you don't think that way. Brian France is Nascar's Bernie Ecclestone. Since being in charge, he's abandoned bunches of old, tradition-steeped tracks in favor of bigger markets which don't sell out. It hasn't been good for the sport, but he's certainly made money off the changes. He's also been attempting to schedule more races outside the US, but that's been a mixed bag. Since they race nearly every weekend, it's a logistical nightmare even when it does work out. I'm English on my mother's side and I've got to say, British journalists could sensationalize the swatting of a house fly, make it into a 5 part series and find a way to illustrate it with half-naked women. I can imagine what they do with F1. ;D I'm definitely gonna check out the Spanish GP. You've got me really curious with all this talk of passing. Should be good.
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Post by bigmjfan on Apr 23, 2012 5:06:02 GMT -5
Yes that is what I meant about Caseys next single. For instance my station is already plaing Montgomery Gentry new single even though it doesnt go for ads for a couple weeks I believe. One of the reasons LDCIAN mighy of havr a slow start was it didnt have that buid up. They just sent it to radio.
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Post by bigmjfan on Apr 23, 2012 5:33:12 GMT -5
Yep Caseys song is done. Looks like Craig Morgan is done also. The charts are starting to get rid of the old songs to make room for the new. We should find out soon what his new single will be.
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Post by willow23 on Apr 23, 2012 8:15:26 GMT -5
I hope they pick a good song for Casey's next single & that it is soon!
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Post by willow23 on Apr 23, 2012 8:16:16 GMT -5
Yep Caseys song is done. Looks like Craig Morgan is done also. The charts are starting to get rid of the old songs to make room for the new. We should find out soon what his new single will be. I can't help being sad about this, even though it did really well.
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Post by bigmjfan on Apr 23, 2012 9:06:00 GMT -5
I hope we find out soon.Usually once they notice the single is done we will get a press release. He has probably already had meetings and they know what it will be. Its going to be fun to watch the new single. Especially to see it get early play.
It is sad to see it go though.
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Post by waternymf on Apr 23, 2012 11:17:12 GMT -5
^^^^Thanks for the clarification and, yeah, it's bittersweet to see it drop from the charts.
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Post by bigmjfan on Apr 23, 2012 11:22:23 GMT -5
Its sad but also exciting and scary all in one. I mean if a second single doesnt do as well as ldcian it wont be good. But I have confindence that it will. Whichever one it is will be way better then ldcian. But sometimes that dont matter. It is sometimes just a timing thing.
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